With Elizabeth Odders-White
In this episode, I talk with Elizabeth Odders-White. Elizabeth is a researcher from the University of Wisconsin-Madison who has recently struck out on her own to provide coaching and consulting services. She co-authored the most comprehensive youth financial literacy research review to date, and she brings her incredibly thoughtful approach to our discussion. Elizabeth talks to us about financial well-being, the importance of scaffolded practice and how we might change the money conversation with our kids from “we can’t” to “we choose not to.”
“It’s not rocket science. [With] a little bit of intention, maybe some slight tweaks, we can really help our kids.”
Here are just a few of the topics that we cover:
- Elizabeth’s paper on youth financial literacy, commissioned by the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau (CFPB), was an invaluable resource for me when writing The Art of Allowance.
- What it means to strive for financial well-being
- Not comparing your financial situation to others (Watch out for trying to “keep up with the Joneses.”)
- Discussing the concept of trade-offs with your child
- Executive function and its role in the development of money smarts in the young child
- The importance of learning delayed gratification early and its correlation with successful outcomes later in life
- Scaffolded practice appears to show benefit.
- Financial socialization — and conversations — appear to be important factors in raising money-smart kids.
- Her thoughts on investing (and in particular, stock picking) are illuminating. If you want to know more about the role luck plays in investing, then I strongly recommend Daniel Kahneman’s book Thinking, Fast and Slow.
- The importance of teaching our kids to seek out trusted sources for financial information (hint: another big benefit of opening up a money dialogue with your kids from a young age)
- Her parenting “aha” moment: Explaining, “We choose not to spend our money that way.” instead of stating, “We can’t afford that.”
- The importance of reflection and changing your mind when it’s appropriate
- Get the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau resources here.
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